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USS Crockett PG-88, Time has come to do another build of the Dumas kit.
rktman56
post Sep 5 2007, 01:45 PM
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I have been thinking of redoing the USS Crockett for a few years now. Back in 1998 when I first started working on my website, I only had a cheap camara and no real idea to design the site to simplify the assembly for others. I knew how to build the model and I knew what I was going to do to build it. But the problem was thinking of what others would have problems with, then cover those with good directions and more quality (close-up) pictures. What I have done on the USS Crockett and what I did for the Boothbay Lobster Boat is a far cry. http://www.rktman.com/rlh/boothbay/index.html

Now after many years I have tons of emails saved from model builders who have sent me questions about the Dumas USS Crockett kit. I know that Dumas lends little help and the directions in the kit are a JOKE. Someone who has never built such a kit is lost and often tosses it aside and the kit never gets built or ends up on ebay.

I not only want to add more pictures, but I've been thinking of more features to add to the model. You see all have seen what I added back in 1999, so just think what I could add now!!! I want to not only add these features but show how I did them, I want to show where I got the items needed and how much it cost me to do it. Features like sounds, rotating 40mm Bofors, more crew members, detailed bridge, detailed main stack, working search lights, working signal lights.

On my first Crockett build Dumas had helped me, but the two guys who worked at Dumas that helped are no longer working at Dumas. sad.gif Plus, Dumas is not happy with what I did. ohmy.gif Is it because I talked about the poor directions/plans and wood in the kit? I was told by Dumas that I was "unfavorable" to Dumas. YES, it is due to what I have said on my site about the quality of the wood and to poor directions. I will not EVER cut the modeler short, lie just to make it look good for Dumas. So, I need something anyone who is building this model or has a wish to build this kit. Also anyone who searved abord the USS Crockett, I need INFORMATION!

For those who are building or have built this kit, I need to know what problems you had. I need to know your ideas on how you built the kit. Also, I need pictures to post for others to see.

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post Sep 5 2007, 01:55 PM
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Problem areas with the USS Crockett site that I have received questions about:



1. Difficulties with the blanking at the bow of the hull (planks 1 and 2 mostly)
2. Would it be easier to add balsa blocks at the bow and carve them to shape?
3. I'm not quite sure how you rigged the servo to turn the radar
4. I'm also curious how you rigged the bulbs on the vertical sections of the mast
5. What is a micro bulb that you used for the flood lights?
6. Where did you find this stuff?
7. From my research it looks like you have to put resistors in for the lights
8. Do you have a wiring plan on how you linked all this together so I don't blow every bulb?
9. I tried to find the bofor 40mm but no one seems to sell it.
11. You mentioned that you cut a hole in frame 6 for the forward gun, but I don't see anything else about it.
12. Where and how did you did you rig the servo and what kind of linkage did you use?
13. Chocks, you said you casted your own after making a master. How in the world do you cast your own parts?
14. Just wondering if you have a text only version to use in my shop as I build next to Dumas's Plans?
15. What really confuses me is how far forward do I put the planks to form the bow?
16. Do I glue the planks at the tip to form the bow?
17. How is that straight edge of the bow established.
18. Also, after I start placing the planks above and below the sheer knuckle, there is still a little area left above the knuckle but not enough for a whole plank. Do I splice planks in half if necessary?
19. How far up do I place the planks? Until it is level with the deck or below level?
20. How fast does the RADAR rotate
21. How do you increase/decrease the speed of the RADAR unit
22. Do you have a more detail and brighter picture of the v40mm bofors gun
23. Is there any easy way to remove the pieces from the cutout boards?
24. Do you have a copy of the locator drawings?
25. Do you have any pictures of the Bow end of the hull before planking
26. I am a little confused on the bow area and how the planking fits in along the keel?
27. I really need help with the assembly of the forward turret ie T3, T4
28. As you probably know identifying parts are hard as the numbers are very small and at times blurred.
29. First of all the detail sketch of the stern tubes. Where did you find the oilite bearings to use in the tube. 30. If the shaft is 1/8'" I suspect that the tubes must be 3/16" with the bearings pressed into them. Also what size prop (pitch) did you use. Any model # available? It would seem wasteful be buy the Dumas running hardware kit since this setup would eliminate most of the parts in the Dumas kit.
31. I would like to know if ended up putting stabilizers on the hull? I found my model very tipsy in the water.
32. I want to order custom struts and props for it but I don't have my plans yet, would it be possible for to scan just the strut and prop portion of your drawings and send me the graphic file. I know the props have a 2" diameter and are four bladed. I'm ordering them from RC Naval supply and he can scale the strut to the prop from the drawing.
33. You mention Lee Duvall for props but an internet search does not get me to "Working Boat Models". Probably no longer in existence. Do you know of any other sources?

This is just some of the questions I've been asked. These will be answered in the new Qestions And Answers area of the new USS Crocket area of the website. Although I plan to add a new area for the second USS Crockett, the first one built back in 1999 will remain. wink.gif


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post Sep 6 2007, 03:53 PM
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Got the Dumas USS Crockett kit today. I plan to start work on it this weekend. Looking through the kit I noticed some changes the Dumas has made since the last time I built this kit. One major change is in the running hardware. Dumas now supplied Rivabo three blade props with the kit. A major improvement from the older bronze props they did use. Plus they look better too. biggrin.gif

I am looking forward to stating the planking and getting the hull done in a few weeks. As of now, all other models are on ?hold? and my efforts will only be on this kit. I have a few emails out to past crew members that I have asked questions. One is to verify that the Crockett has four bladed ?screws? and ?A? struts.


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post Sep 21 2007, 01:35 PM
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Got to work on the hull the other day. The hull is now planked, the deck is attached and now it needs to be filled and sanded. Took about 3 days to get this far, the rest I've been working on the html stuff for the new website. You can follow the build at:

USS Crocket Build

This site is not up to date yet, so watch for broken links. huh.gif

I got a CD-ROM the other day from a sailor who was on the Crockett. It is packed full of images and files!!! Lots and lots of images. Some of the image files include Booklet of General Plans of a few of the ships in this class from the Bureau of Ships, PG-89, PG-94 and PG98. A plate for the PG-94 shows the stabilizer fins and a plate for the PG-98 shows the missile launcher and magazine. I even found some control console layouts from Tocoma Boatbuilding Co. Inc. After I go through the data, I'll end up posting alot of it on the new website for everyone to see. biggrin.gif


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post Sep 27 2007, 01:12 PM
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Did some fiberglass work today on the hull. I should have the hull ready for the running gear next week. I will be making new "A" struts and using the stern tubes that came from Dumas. I also did more work on the new site yesterday. It's almost caught up to where I at in the building stage. wink.gif You can see the site here:




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post Sep 29 2007, 03:08 PM
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Added 6 new pages today to the website. I even added pictures showing where I test fitted the electronics inside the hull. You can see this at the following link:

Electronics Test Fit

I have the hull fiberglassed now but not yet ready for primer. I should have the website cought up this weekend. blink.gif Next week I plan to add resin to the deck, build the rear hatch and start building the new "A" struts!!! wink.gif


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post Oct 9 2007, 04:21 PM
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Been working on the USS Crockett. Also been trying to keep the website updated. I'll work on the model and spend the next 4 or five doing an update. Before I spent most of the time on the model and the website seemed to lag far behind. But anywy, I did do some work on the A frames. I never did like the strut that Dumas gives you.





I have alot more work to do on the A frames and to get the mounted to the hull. You can see the full sized pictures on the website. The superstructure is almost built and I should start the 3"/50 cal turret this weekend. Been thinking of windows... wink.gif


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post Nov 2 2007, 09:13 PM
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I plan on getting some work done this weekend. I will try to get the A struts mounted. rolleyes.gif We'll see... Gotta take some time to watch football though! biggrin.gif


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post Nov 30 2007, 07:06 PM
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Roger,
I know it's the holiday season and all but hows your new Crockett coming?
I plan on getting some pictures of mine and starting a thread. It won't be too much of a build thread as it was nearly complete when I got it. I am getting some questions together on some of the finish details and will post them too. I have enjoyed your site and picked up a few things from your previous build. Keep up the good work.
Take care.
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post Nov 30 2007, 11:20 PM
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Thanks for the comments. I have been busy the past month with other items. I was hard at work on the Crockett and things have slowed down. One the positive, some of my time has gone to the CG-54 build. wink.gif I welcome any questions. I would also like to see any photos.


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Hi Roger,

Just finished framing up the hull and am ready to put the first planks on. Even with all the pictures, I still find putting on the first plank confusing. It appears that this plank should start out in the bow at the level of the shear, work its way back following the break of the knuckle and ultimately getting to the aft end of the hull. What made the lay of this plank very clear is that when you removed the hull from the workboard some planks still had to be added to bring the planks up to the shear or deck level. This then makes it abundantly clear how this plank should run because after it passes the knuckle area it just takes a natural run aft. Otherwise this plank needs to take some twists that would put stress on the hull.

I hope that you get back to the build steps soon because I will soon catch up.

Regards,

Iran
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