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PaintChip
Posted on: Oct 3 2007, 04:53 PM


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Just dug the plans out again...got them from The Floating Drydock:

http://www.floatingdrydock.com/G.htm
G-PG92
USS TACOMA PG92
9/68
A-F,P,R
1/96
$22.00



I got fittings from there too since many of the fittings work as well on a 1/32 PT boat as they would on a 1/32 PG-92 biggrin.gif
http://www.floatingdrydock.com/fittings.htm#32

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PaintChip
Posted on: Oct 1 2007, 07:31 AM


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Sorry for not responding but I've been out of the loop for a year smile.gif Fall is setting back in and I'm back to more normal levels of life and time to break out the modeling stuff again smile.gif

I got the plans from one of the online suppliers (unfortunately can't remember which one right now)...I scanned them in to the PC, edited them some to clean them up, and then blew them up and plotted them at the 1/32nd scale so I would have full-size plans to work off of.

I got my fittings from a few places too...almost all of them are from HR (the 40mm mount was definately from there) and the rest are from various other model kits I scavenged. Oddly enough I got my ma-deuces from a kit that was meant for tanks and dioramas...I have a bag of parts like that from other similar parts kits that I plan on using to add the smaller details like M-16's and helmets to the deck. Some of the fittings aren't perfect to scale but I'm working off of a "close enough" for those details...they are light-years beyond the Dumas hardware fittings (which I'm using some of too).
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PaintChip
Posted on: Nov 16 2006, 09:12 PM


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Just a few quick pictures (poor lighting in my office sad.gif ) of my new PG-92 build with a couple shots with pieces from the Dumas kit for size comparison. Still in really rough form...I have to trim things down and work on the insides a lot but overall much, much better than the Dumas build. The superstructure is being built on a plank to make it easier to work with and will be cut free before seating it on the main deck. Once I get the insides started I'll take some better pics showing the progress biggrin.gif

http://battlestarpacifica.com/1-32_PG92_gallery
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PaintChip
Posted on: Oct 25 2006, 01:17 PM


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Chances are good you'll be putting a battery and ESC solution together yourself sad.gif Dumas happily describes the parts they sell for some kits but leaves other gaping holes for the modeler to fill.

With what looks like a single motor setup though it should be a relatively simple exercise to get batteries and and ESC that will work biggrin.gif
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Posted on: Oct 25 2006, 01:12 PM


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Yep...saw a notice on this earlier sad.gif Seems that plastic is easier to deal with and less harmful to the environment so more and more model makers are moving to the ABS plastics.

I did read a rumor though that the plastic hulls Dumas plans on making will be thicker than the normal model kits out there so they will have better substance and strength than normal plastic hulls but still not the strength of fiberglass.

One thing though (which I'm not sure will happen) is that using plastic should make kits a bit cheaper...at least in theory...
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PaintChip
Posted on: Sep 22 2006, 06:56 PM


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http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=206178

Interesting model made from Lego's smile.gif

Looks accurate and even the camouflage is done using Lego's. I wonder if she floats biggrin.gif
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Posted on: Sep 22 2006, 11:21 AM


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Posted on: Sep 19 2006, 06:25 AM


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Got my wood order in...ordered it from National Balsa out of Mass. Came packaged really well biggrin.gif

Last night I used some spray photo mount adhesive to fix my frame prints to stiff cardboard...cut the cardboard out to make templates. Used the templates to draw the frames on a few of the sheets of wood...I'll cut the frames out later this week biggrin.gif

I am also building the model in 2 sections...from frame 0 to 111 and from frame 111 to 154. Frame 111 will be double-thickness but hopefully will allow me to get things just right...and if one section warps I don't have to rebuild the whole thing over again biggrin.gif

I'm also not going for what I did the first round and try to have each plank fitted to the next...I'm going to start with some very thin strips of balsa (just wide enough to make it stable) and tack those to the frames to get the shape roughed in. Once I get the skeleton built then I'll fill in the plank "holes" with other strips to close the gaps but I'm not going to worry about trying to make the hull watertight just from the wood. Fiberglass will be the real shell and will smooth things out and make the hull watertight...hopefully...
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Posted on: Sep 17 2006, 05:32 PM


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I'm having a blast smile.gif And every model is a learning experience smile.gif

I'll have my new wood shipment in tomorrow...I'm plotting out my plans in the scale (1/32) now...I love having access to plotters at work biggrin.gif Makes life so much easier when dealing with large drawings.
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Posted on: Sep 14 2006, 07:40 AM


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I'm not discounting it completely though for narrow ships smile.gif For models like the Mr Darby and the Crockett there should be plenty of room for the board. But even in say a Lindberg Blue Devil some creative placement might get it to work... The Fletcher hull is about 2.5" from the keel to the deck at the deepest point in the hull and only 2" or so from port to starboard at the widest across the deck. But by come creative placement the board might fit if turned on its side and put 1/2 way in the superstructure and 1/2 way into the hull area biggrin.gif

Now some really tiny models might not be suitable at all but I have a feeling most people wouldn't care as much about sounds from a 1/350 scale destroyer biggrin.gif
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Posted on: Sep 14 2006, 07:32 AM


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Another change of direction smile.gif I feel some days like I'm in a sailboat during a hurricane...

I'm putting the fiberglass hull idea on the back burner as my absolute last resort. I'm not getting warm fuzzy feelings from the vendor I was looking at. Timeframe to make a hull from a mold shouldn't take 6 to 12 weeks and I get a bit ancy when info provided doesn't match what is listed on the company's website.

So I'm back to scratch building my Crockett hull. I've taken my plans and enlarged them to a 1/32 scale and have ordered some balsa, basswood, and plywood from National Balsa to try to make the hull again. I'm ditching the Dumas kit other than the deck hardware and running hardware. I'll cut out the frames and get them lined up and then work on getting the hull skinned. Hopefully I'll not get the warp in the bow that I got with the Dumas hull sad.gif

The saga continues...and continues...and continues...like a bad soap opera....
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Posted on: Sep 14 2006, 07:22 AM


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That is an excellent find! Not a bad price either smile.gif

It looks like it could also handle a couple of other duties like turning lights on and off depending on the track...and the SD card is a big pro to load it up with sounds and scripts biggrin.gif

The only thing I didn't see on teh site was any dimensions of the device...but extrapolating some info based on the SD card size (typical SD cards are about 1" wide by 1.25" long)..it looks like the player would be roughly 3.25" along the SD slot side by 3.25" along the bottom edge where the name is. Not bad for some of the larger scale ships smile.gif I'd have to do a bit of waterproofing but all in all not a big deal. Power would be the biggest thing and it would be easy enough to rig a separate battery just to power the sound.


I might have to add this to my "wish list" to get one day...I was thinking about putting some sounds on my Crockett and this might just fit the bill perfectly!
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Posted on: Sep 12 2006, 06:15 PM


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QUOTE
The USS Whitehall was commissioned in 1944 and was named after the town of Whitehall, NY, the birthplace of the US Navy. She served along the east coast and then was sent to the South Seas where she did anti-submarine duty. The Dumas kit features a 2 piece vacuum formed hulll, expanded pvc die cuts and laser cut balsa and birch plywood parts. Step by step instructions and name and number decals round out this Navy support ship kit. Designed for radio control, the Whitehall uses Dumas running hardware kit #2369 which includes the 4.8 volt motor.

Length: 23" Beam: 4" Scale: 1/96th
USS Whitehall Kit #1252 Price: $90.00
Running hardware kit #2369 for single screw
Running Hardware #2369 Price: $40.00


Might be a nice starter kit for someone wanting to get the feel for RC warships smile.gif Small enough to not take up a lot of space but still big enough to have fun with. The vacu-formed hull is a nice thing...no building a hull with balsa.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 02:10 PM


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http://wmunderway.8m.com/cont/cont.htm

This is a link to the How-To construction pages. Again this site is geared towards model ship combat but the principles apply to any model.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 02:04 PM


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http://www.bluejacketinc.com

Kits, books, fittings, cases/stands, and other related gear.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 02:03 PM


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http://www.maddog.delta-v.org/chart.htm

Useful for doing scale comparisons.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 12:04 PM


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Overall I'm not impressed with the Dumas kit. The quality vs price is bad and once I started building I found that the instructions were next to worthless...much less the 2 whole plan sheets that really didn't give much instruction or elaboration on the details of how things should be. Add to the factor that to really complete the kit one is reccomended (by Dumas) to buy the deck hardware and running gear that matches the kit.

My hull turned out warped...so I'm going down the premade fiberglass hull route now.. The brass couplers for the prop shafts were crappy quality...the screws to hold them onto the shaft didn't fit into the holes on the couplers...Dumas replaced them. Then the last straw was that I had one of the prop shaft supports to break under absolutely no stress. Roger sent me a spare of his and Dumas finally sent me a couple more.

The way I was going to put the 40mm mount on my model was to add a 4 small "plates" under the deck at each corner to hold the hatch level with the deck and then use 2 screws to link the hatch to 2 cams (my terminology might not be right here) that I could turn to lock the hatch down and hold it in place. The idea for that came from a Lindberg PT boat model that used a similar method to hold the superstructure to the deck...worked pretty well. I may rethink my methods though now that I'm rethinking the whole hull..I might make the rear hatch a bit bigger (encompass the 40mm mount and part of the rear deck vs Dumas' 40mm mount only) and disguise the cam screws with rope coils or something else.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 11:32 AM


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Right now at this point in life I will happily settle for a midway point with this model...a nice scale model to put on the shelf and a decent duck-chaser for the pond. I don't care if on the pond it doesn't whine like the real thing would and churn the water like it actually had a turbine engine in it. Maybe one day I'll reconsider and if that happens I figure that I'll have another model that could use the Dumas gear...I have no qualms with minor patching and retooling...removing shafts and tubes and filling those gaps won't be hard.

If I had it to do over again I think I'd start from scratch and get the fiberglass hull nad buy the props, struts, rudders, etc by the piece and build that way working from a copy of the original builder's plans.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 10:24 AM


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I though about getting new running hardware but at this point I don't want to spend any more $$$ than I have to. Spending another $160+shipping on a new hull is bad enough but evem my wife is saying "get what you need so it will work"...I have a lot of time and materials already tied up in this monster...I want to someday have something that looks presentable biggrin.gif I figure that the scale will be "close enough" at least to start and down the road if this thing ever floats I can always refit the running gear to a better match. The Dumas kit was close to a 1:39 scale if I recall correctly...the PG-84 hull from the Scale Shipyard is 1:35...the props on the Dumas kit looked a bit bigger than I would have thought so I'm thinking they will work for my needs.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 10:12 AM


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http://www.jkmiller.net/ntxbg/pgOnTheWays/...ildSeries01.htm

An excellent read from John Mianowski on the North Texas Battle Group website. While geared more towards the building of a scale combat ship (yes the ones that fire BB's at each other) the principles apply towards any warship construction...like how to read plans and how to lay out a hull and skin it.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 10:05 AM


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http://www.loyalhannadockyard.com/

Kits, fittings, running gear, and other boat/ship parts.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 10:04 AM


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http://www.floatingdrydock.com/

Plans, drawings, fittings, kits, and other parts for the warship modeler.

**I have bought both plans and fittings from The Floating Drydock and was very happy with my purchase.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 10:03 AM


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http://www.shipsnthings.com

Kits, fittings, radios, and other gear for boat modelers.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 10:02 AM


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http://www.shipcamouflage.com/

Good site for naval paint chips and warship camouflage (mostly WWII era) guides.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2006, 09:59 AM


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http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/

Scanned German original ship plans of warships, photos of old warships...a good reference for builders who might need to look at how other ships of the same era were built to better craft their models.
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